illumined horizon

This looked like most other Zinn interviews (essential reading by all means, but he tends to focus on the same topics), but I found the ending quite unique. I had never seen Zinn pressed on religion like this before. I think there are a lot of lefty atheist materialists (I'm a lefty agnostic non-materialist myself) still around, I don't know for a fact that Zinn is one of them, but he didn't really seem to agree with where the interviewer wanted to go. She seemed to be looking for some support for the Jewish metanarrative from Zinn, and he seemed unwilling to give it to her. Overall, I couldn't figure out if Zinn was trying to say he personally is a materialist and these spiritual things are ok for others but not for him, or if he was trying to endorse a new age/eastern mysticism/god is everywhere in everything-type view. Whatever the point, it was interesting to see Zinn opine on these matters, even though I think the interview could have continued on much longer, and further clarified exactly where Zinn stands.